The Other Side of the Coin

This just in. A response from an Egyptian (not the ones involved). It is always important to hear the other side of the story before we come to any conclusion about anything. Anyway, here it is:

Assalumu Alikom/hi Dear friends and colleagues,

Off course all of you have heard of the incident that happened last
week in Taman Maju. So, as Egyptian, I felt assaulted by this Metro
newspaper and with the suspicious looks that changed from friendly to
unfriendly from some people.

So here's the true story, and for you who really know will know I am
not bluffing here,
Few days ago before the incident, my Senior Mohamed went to a cobbler
asking to fix his shoe, the guy took it and promise to fix on time,
later on, my friend came back to take his shoe back ALONE! And the guy
asked for 30 RM which is too much if you know, normally just 5 RM,
anyway... My friend refused to pay this cost and asked to reduce, and
because he had a high-pitch voice and muscles body, the cobbler felt
afraid and raised his knife in front of his face and threatened to
hurt him. So yeah, my friend cursed him and went back ALONE!.
He later on told the story to another Egyptian and they went back same
day to fix this issue for good, And when they went back they were
surprised that the cobbler still angry with his knife and when the 2nd
Egyptian tried to calm him down, he attacked him with 3 stabs in his
forearm, And later on you'll see.

They went back afraid but mad! Those 2 Egyptians are like gym guys and
practice regularly and when the re-told what happened to their gym
friends! They insisted to go with them and either communicate with the
guy or fight with the guy! (They were mix of international and not
sure but I think there was 1 local). And when they went there, one
thing led to another and a fight started between the cobbler and his
friend and those UTPians.

The International UTPians may have cause some damages to his shop!
Then they went back after the other shop resident started to be
attention ed of the noise! And the cobbler went after them but the UTP
security stopped them ( fact & you can ask head of security).

That's all so far!

Concerns:
1- Are Egyptians.. Bully people? No we are not! Malaysia has been my
2nd home for 3 years now and I never saw something like that before!
2- Why did they send people to whack the cobbler and his shop? They
went to speak, but the guy took to a whole new level.

My Doubts:
1- 1st of all, I know that this newspaper Metro is a tabloid which
means don't expect they will write the truth! They want to create a
big bang.
2- The cobbler or the newspaper said 12 Egyptians! Well, Just 2 and
other Internationals went in his favor!
3- Do you think my senior would just go and kick his ass for nothing!
Why! We'r well educated people not bullies or attackers! so wth
4- People have been passing the link up to 150 people per email!
What's wrong with you people! IF YOU ARE MUSLIM DON'T YOU KNOW THIS
VERSUS:
(Quraan - Arabic Version)
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ
فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَن تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَىٰ
مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ
( سورة الحجرات , Al-Hujraat, Chapter #49, Verse #6)

(Translation - English Version)
O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news,
ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards
become full of repentance for what ye have done.
(Translation - Bahasa Version)
Wahai orang-orang yang beriman! Jika datang kepada kamu seorang fasik
membawa sesuatu berita, maka selidikilah (untuk menentukan)
kebenarannya, supaya kamu tidak menimpakan sesuatu kaum dengan perkara
yang tidak diingini dengan sebab kejahilan kamu (mengenainya) sehingga
menjadikan kamu menyesali apa yang kamu telah lakukan.

So why don't you research a bit first before you fasten into sending
wrong info and creating conflict between locals and Egyptians whom by
the way is one of your course mates and you might be hurting their
feeling! I am just saying!

This newspaper is skank! And all of you know it! So why are you still
believing it!

I am not saying the 2 TWO Egyptians might not be wrong!, They might be
wrong Yes and if they were proven wrong, they should be punished
whatever it takes! But it's not our decision, there's local Police
invistagating!

If I wish to leave you with anything! I would say GOD BLESS US ALL :)

--
Best Regards,

Egyptian X

I have censored his name in this case, just in case he wouldn't want this to be published. However, I feel that this gives us a whole new perspective on the situation.

Fact or Fiction?

This extracted from myMetro, the online newspaper, translated by me (sorry for the poor translation),

IPOH: Purely on the notion that they were unhappy with the prices offered by a cobbler, a group of international students from Universiti Teknologi Petronas (UTP) in Seri Iskandar, savagely beat up a cobbler while he was having a meal at a restaurant last night.

Roughly about 8.45 p.m., the victim, Zalmi Abdul Ghani, 35, was having a meal at a restaurant beside his shop in Taman Maju, Seri Iskandar, when he was suddenly attacked by around 10-12 Egyptian students who came in two cars.

“I was having dinner with one of my friends that night when that group of students without warning, suddenly rushed towards our direction and attacked us with sticks.

“The only thing my friend and I could do, was to use our hands to protect our heads from being hit.

“After a few minutes, these students escaped the scene in two cars. Sadly, not even one of the locals helped us before my friend and I went to Hospital Changkat Melintang for treatment,” said Zalmi when he was contacted by Harian Metro yesterday.

Zalmi, the father of four, said that he managed to identify one of his attackers because two days prior to the alleged incident (last Tuesday), the alleged suspect came to his shop to get three pairs of shoes mended.

“I know that the (alleged) suspect is a student from UTP he always comes here. last Tuesday, he (the alleged suspect) came to my shop to mend three pairs of shoes that were spoiled at their soles. “He inquired about the price and I told him that the price is roughly RM 15 per pair.

“Whereas on the other hand I have charged RM3 for another pair of shoes that had only minor damage to the soles, but the (alleged) suspect got angry and told me that the price was exorbitant, and asked me to lower the price to RM 20,” said Zalmi.

Zalmi said, he asked the alleged suspect to go to another shop nearby to inquire about the prices. “He went away for a while but after about 10 minutes later, he came back to my shop and demanded that I fix his shoes for RM 20,”

According to Zalmi, when the alleged suspect came back to his shop the second time, there was another customer who was in the shop. When he (the customer) saw the behavior of the alleged suspect which was demanding and utterly disrespectful towards Zalmi, he (the customer) asked the suspect to leave.

“At that point, the (alleged) suspect began to hurl abuse at me in English, but I ignored him (the alleged suspect),"

“But I lost my cool when the (alleged) suspect shouted ‘f** Malaysia’. “I lost my patience and grabbed the suspect's hand, and together with another friend and warned him not to speak in that manner,” said Zalmi.

According to him (Zalmi), the suspect got into his car and after making a U-turn, stopped in front of his shop and warned that he would return while performing a vulgar gesture.

“The most disappointing thing was that the UTP management instead persuaded me to retract my police report that night simply because they did not want this to be a big issue,” said Zalmi.

Kasdi Ali
kasdi@hmetro.com.my
2010/03/06

How true is this, I have no idea... But this seems to be the thing going about UTP. Will confirm it as soon as I can.

Edit: The Egyptians had a talk with the ESU representative for Egypt this afternoon. The reason for the talk has yet to be confirmed.